Friday, January 8, 2010

The Envelope System: Year 2

We went a whole year on the envelope system in 2009. We saved a lot of money, managed to take a great trip and save for another one, and have a lot of fun, and by the end of the year met our goal of being able to live on just Mr. B's salary. We're geared up (and excited) to continue the budget into 2010. We reevaluated the envelopes this year - eliminated one, cut the funds to some others (Example: The personal fund got chopped in half. We weren't buying $100 worth of shampoo, deodorant and haircuts each month), and added an additional $200 that used to be allotted to spending to our monthly savings transfers.

I got a lot of emails throughout the year asking about our envelope system, and I thought I'd address some of the most frequently asked questions here.

Q. Do you really keep all this cash around your house or do you just make sure you stay in your budget while shopping with credit and debit cards?
A. My mom and aunt would like me to make it very clear that we don't keep loads of cash laying around our house. We pull out only what we need for the spending envelopes every month and keep our savings funds securely tucked away in various bank accounts. BUT - this budget does not work without a cash-only spending system. It's much easier to add a few extra Target items and grocery store goodies to the cart when you're aimlessly charging than when you're forking over a set amount of cash. Mr. B (the grocery shopper) has had times where he takes $40 to the grocery store and tells the checker to stop if he goes over that amount. We're hardcore about the budget.

Q. What do you have against credit cards?

Nothing and everything. B and I got lucky and both have the same philosophy on credit cards - you treat them as cash, pay them off every month and don't buy things if you can't pay for them. As a result, we don't deal with credit card debt, we don't pay interest on purchases, and we get some rewards back for what we do buy.

But, there's not a hard and fast stopping point for spending with credit cards (unless you hit your credit limit). There's less accountability for sticking to your budget. B and I tried budgets while still charging everything (we wanted that 1% back!!!), and they didn't work. With cash, there's a hard stop. Out of money in a category? Out of luck. The amount we saved spending cash only was over $1000 a month - and I can promise you that's a hell of a lot more than we were getting back at 1%.

We still charge things - bills paid online, gasoline, etc. We like to keep our credit fresh, but for everyday, fluctuating purchases, we pay cash. I'm pro credit card - having credit in our names helped us qualify for great mortgage rates - I'm just more pro-savings.

Q. I spend cash whenever I get it from the bank, so how does this help you save money?

A. I did too. But when the cash in your wallet is all you're allowed to spend, you spend it much more frugally. It helps, too, that we don't keep the cash in our wallets. We each get a monthly spending allowance, and beyond that the money is secured in an envelope file system. If we need something at the grocery store, we go home to get the grocery money before we go. It's the only way it works for us.

Q. How did you figure out your budget?
A. This strict budget all started after I lost my job in 2008. We had never worried too much about money because we paid our bills on time, but realized we could both reel in our spending. So I looked at our credit card statements for two months to get an idea of what we spent where. Everything was tallied - gas and other car expenses, groceries, toiletries, pet spending. And from there I had a rough idea of what we spent and where we could cut our spending to meet our number one goal: Live on one income and save the other. So, I assigned a number to each category, and we took out the cash we needed to get started. And within 15 days, we knew this was the budget for us.

Q. So, what is your budget?
A. We have three budget categories:
1) Set Bills We Pay Directly (monthly or annually)
Mortgage
Car payment
Utilities
Cell Phones
Car insurance

2) Monthly Cash Spending
Groceries
Eating Out
Gasoline (paid via credit card)
Casco
Clothing
Gifts
Personal (includes toiletries, haircuts, athletic fees)
Individual Monthly Spending

3) Savings
We've chosen to break this up into long-term savings, short-term savings, retirement savings, vacation savings, etc. We have separate, linked accounts for each of these that we make a monthly deposit into with every paycheck.


Q. Do you still have fun?
A. Oh, yes. Our social life has not taken a hit - which amazed me at first, but makes sense. We think before going out to eat more often, but the budget hasn't stopped us from doing something we want to do. If we have a big event coming up - a birthday or an anniversary, we might choose not to eat out the rest of the month so we can use all of our restaurant money on a nice night, but making those choices is kind of fun!

So, that's a little round-up of our first year on a cash-only budget. We know it's not the system for everyone, but we're thrilled with the results we've had. Anyone embarking on a new budget for their New Year's Resolutions? Any other questions? I love to talk budgets!

16 comments:

  1. We do not do the cash, but also live by a very strict budget and keep all receipts and they go into this marvelous excel spreadsheet we have created for ourselves. I love budgeting--it gives me peace :)

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  2. I think it's so awesome that the envelope system is working for you. I love budgeting and track our money in a spreadsheet daily (for the past 3 years) so I know where every penny goes.

    For our problem areas, going out and eating out, we try to do cash only. I say "try" because sometimes we forget the envelope or forget to hit the ATM, but it has helped tons.

    Hope you have continued success in 2010 with your budget!

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  3. Hey I'm so glad you did this post! My husband and I have talked about doing this too. I have a question though about the grocery store. When you go to the store and buy food items and bath items (shampoo, etc), do you have them split the transactions? This just seems like such a pain to me, but I guess if it works than it would be worth it. Thanks!!

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  4. Thanks for posting that! Matt and I are doing the cash system as well. We had talked about it for about a year before we actually implemented it. We have been amazed how on track it keeps us vs. using our debit cards. We think more before buying anything and trouble shoot when something comes up we weren't expecting. I think the cash system is fun as well. It makes us communicate about money more and talk about different sacrifices we or one of us is willing to make for the other. Keep doing a great job so other people can see!

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  5. Ironically, I am all backwards. I spend cash like water, but the second I pull out my credit or debit card, I'm all like, "do I really need this?" Lol, I am just screwed up I guess. Congrats on the financially successful year!

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  6. That is a huge goal of my husband and me, to try to live off of just one salary. We might have to look into the envelope system a bit more!

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  7. Thanks for posting this. Your tips were so helpful. I have been trying to get a cash budget started for months. The problem is, my husband's not entirely on board. He thinks that since we pay all of our bills on time and put money into savings, that we are doing okay, but I think that we could be wiser and put MORE money into savings. Do you have any tips on how to encourage him in this way? I handle most of our finances, so I know I could set it up, but I know it will never work if we're not both 100% committed to it.

    In June, we started doing cash budgeting for groceries and it has been amazing. I have cut our grocery spending by more than half! I just know we could cut spending in other areas as well.

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  8. We do use the envelope system, but we also have a strict budget. We also have the same philosophy of paying off credit cards each month. I don't think we've ever carried a balance over.

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  9. This is really awesome. Right now we are on no spending at all mode unless it's absolutely essential--so it hardly matters if it's cash or credit card. But once we've relaxed our standards a bit, maybe we'll try this. We'll see.

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  10. Hearing these answers makes a lot of sense--such as coming home before the grocery store rather than carrying around the cash. That was precisely where the breakdown was for us (because it didn't work logistically to come home before going to the store).

    But maybe now that I'll be home, we'll give it another shot!

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  11. yeah Mint didn't have ING for a while, but now they do. I think they are working on getting more institutions! Hope it works for you! by the way...totally random. I am still job searching. If you have any contacts in the Atlanta area let me know! Can't post this kind of thing on my blog bc the daughter of our President of the company I work for reads my blog!

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  12. I am so happy to read that it has been working for you guys for over a year. We played with the idea of using this system but we never fully implemented it. We do use the system for my husband's eating out. I used to get so upset and grill him everyday about what he had for lunch and how much he paid. Now he just gets out cash at the beginning of the month and keeps it at work. When it is gone, he has to pack his lunch and I am no longer bugging him about it. You might inspire us to totally go for it.

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  13. This is a great post, Emily. That's excellent. We just got to the point of living off of one income as well, and it's liberating.

    We started a cash budget for a few categories this month (eating out, extras, house), totally inspired by your talk of it last year. These are the only areas that I consistantly go over budget, so I'm hoping it works for us as well as it did for you.

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  14. I did the envelope system and it worked well, but that was when my boyfriend was away and spending was easily controlled. I want to get back to doing that again, but its hard to get him on board. BOYS!

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  15. I am so proud of you. You have got the envelope system down and working well. Keep it up.

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  16. Hubby and I do a similiar thing. We have $ set aside for vet bills, car repairs (already came in handy), vacations, etc... Our ulitimate goal is to be debt free. We paid off our car in '09 and our goal this year is to pay down our house as much as possible. We're more than doubling our mortage payment and should have it paid off by 2016! Woo hoo!

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